Well, it’s a long and elaborate debate we had in our site regarding Pedruchi Chavi with a lot of participation from many of our visitors. We approached the Pedruchi Chavi committee lead by Parish Priest with the printouts of the Sandesh column for their response.  Here are results of our discussion.

First of all it is the unanimous decision of the Parish Council to reduce the number of issues to two per year,  after announcing the matter in the Church and without any objection,  as in spite of the repeated appeals to the Parishioners to contribute articles in Konaknni, Kannada or English, the response has been poor. There is nothing much to write about the activities of the various organizations and wards once in three months. So the general question asked by the people is “What is there to read in PC?”

The issues are reduced not due to lack of funds. Every time when appealed, Barkurians from the parish and abroad to sponsor, they have done it willingly.

Some one observed that there is no dearth of talents in Barkur. Yes, they agree, but when it came to contributing the articles for PC, the response has been very poor.  The talented and budding writers still have a lot of scope as they will be publishing two issues per year and they can contribute their articles, poems, jokes, etc so the committee will be able to bring out better and more enjoyable Pedruchi Chavi.

So with this note from the Editorial board, we end this debate on Pedruchi Chavi. No more feedbacks will be published in the site on this subject. However we encourage our visitors to send their feelings directly to the Parish Priest or the Editor of Pedruchi Chavi, as requested by them.

-barkuronline.com  team.

We do need more PC's, but once I read, James Fernandes and Barkurgar, feel it must a "YEAR BOOK BARKUR PARISH", with more reading material, history of Barkur, forgotten personalities, living legends, about priests who served and serving, in a way it must me a 'monumental Ducument' to be preseved for future generation, as the mentioned 'Souvenir of ICYM' Fr. Tony's experiment in his Church can be tried by us or even he can guide us!

F.X.D'Souza, Mumbai.24/07/2005

It appears that we need more than two PC issues published per year. The observations put  forward by GS Lewis, P.Richard, MM Alvaris, A.Furtado, and V.DSouza are highly in favour, with suggestions to raise finance as well. I got a call saying that may be we could charge a fee, like membership fee to the mailing list recipients. Needless to say, the 'Benefits do outweigh the costs. Well, "Fondness grows in absence!" Wait a while, the very local Barkurains will ask for it pretty soon! Children's Corner could help encourage children to write, not only local ones, but also the NRI children. But then the NRI kids can't read Kannada script. Even now, these kids can't appreciate what their parents write or read in PC. Vincent made a very good observation, that is, people normally contribute but expect something in return. We pay a 'nickel' but we want a dollar song! We all want to hear, births, deaths, weddings, First communions, who graduated, who are the teachers, who are the achievers, and whose cow is yielding more milk! Don't we? (I do)! I came across a Commemoration issue of St. Thomas Church, Minneapolis, of its 50 years of Parish life. The directory contains colored family photographs of each parish member-family, followed by home address, phone number, etc, The Church History, message from the Pastor, (our own)Fr. Tony Andrade, Church staff, pictures and activities and achievements of various Church activities, ministries, like lectors, choirs, servers, too many to mention here. A beautifully done job. When such souvenirs are issued, and when every parish member is included in the booklet, I personally believe, a 'unity' sort of feeling or 'Commonality'is enkindled. When such closeness is achieved, any venture is easy to accomplish, because, the 'Common Cause' outweighs. We would have loved to see the 150 years celebration of St Peter's Church in Barkur, a souvenir, or something to remember the event. May be this could have been a challenge, to the Crorepathies, and Lakhpathies of Barkur, local or NRBs, but then, the opportunity is lost! Can this be salvaged? I guess, it's not too late. Well, "Roma locuta est, Causa Finita est". I guess, 150 years celebration is history, and discussing on this site for more PC issues, is like, crying over 'spilled milk'! Talk is just a talk! Thanks folks!

James Fernandes, USA, 21/07/2005

For long common Barkurians like me kept silent. Here and there this site raise some issues, inform and update on happenings in Barkur. A good job you people doing. Only few are contributing by way of articles like Fr.Tony, Archie, James, Alvares, Vincent. I feel more participation will only help to keep the site vibrant.

Pedruchi Chavi is the latest point on discussion - I feel, publish it yearly, be frank, its value is less compared to cost. Instead the way you brought out ICYM silver souvenir, plan a proper YEAR BOOK BARKUR.  To be honest I liked that magazine better than any number of chavis, since it contained some, though few, sensible and matured articles.

Of course at times chavi publish one or two good essays on people and events, I can’t deny it.

Please don’t waste time on searching sponsors, instead at 1-2 issues cost of Rs. 50k  you can bring out some worthy book on BARKUR. Since I don’t have Fr. Aranha’s , Archie’s or James’  email address, pass on this message to them and if satisfied you are free to put it in Barkur.com.

Barkurgaar, 21/07/2005

Headmaster MR DIAS is fairly longer time in Hall of Famers. Why don't you write on my great grand father Mr. D'Silva who happend to be the FIRST Panchayat President. If Fr. Tony can write on Drivers / Helpers surely my grandpa, deserve to be there in Barkur Hall of Famers. Even Pedruchi Chavi is biased not to remember some great souls of past!

Felciana D'Silva, Kuwait , 21/07/2005

(You come up with facts, we will be happy to publish -Kishoo)

Three favorite subjects in this site - ICYM, PEDRUCHI CHAVI AND BARKUR BRIDGE in these days! With no dislike for these matters, why we pick other matters over here. Mr. Fernandes thoughts are worth to see the chavi come out more frequently. I yet to get my copy so no comments on Archie’s observations. Do raise issues of public concern too..............

Vincent D'Souza ,18/07/2005

PC - is an emotive subject and the proof is the quick publication of two / three articles. The former by Mr. Fernandes and the latter by Mr. Furtado, speaks in same tone, as both like the book be published more than twice. Your possessive-ness is the strength to influence the people concerned to have a second thought on the decision? Always there are better fields to invest, when one count money spent on publicity, a waste. But do you think people contribute the money if you ask other than sponsoring one Issue of your Magazine. Surely not! See each one expects a sort of recognition or wish to be live being in the minds of people. Here it is having enormous 'Communication Link Value' attached, to PC, I believe, than the Economics of Costing!

MM Alvares, alvaresmm@hotmail.com, 18/07/2005.

I feel barkur.com too subscribe our sentiments vis a vis Pedruchi Chavi is concerned! The supreme power lies in the hands of Parish Council; let us expect Vicar will have a re-look into the matter!! No doubt, the issue is more related to outside living Barkurian's rather all at Barkur for whom it is a routine affair!!! Mr. James Fernandes really spelled out his positive feelings and suggestions, but Archie’s Corner restricted to focus on the present issue alone and left us in the middle of the river without any firm commitment or solutions!!!!

Philip Richard P.18/07/2005

There is an appeal from the Editor and Members of Pedruchi Chavi in this site. I was  hoping, as mentioned therein, there was plenty of support, "as there is no dearth of  help...': Where is it? Even though, I did not get the latest copy yet, I am told that there will be only two issues published per year. And I read in this site, that some are disappointed to miss the booklets! The decision must have been made upon due consideration to 'pros and cons.' While I was soliciting support to sponsor last Christmas issue from Barkurians in USA, at least two persons discussed with me saying that the monies spent in bringing out these issues could have been used for other needs of the poor, church, hall, school, etc. etc, since, the booklet goes to the shelf within an hour. (The contents can be read in an hour so, I am told!) The total cost of publishing these books for the last 2-3 years, when added, must have gone very high! Do the benefit outweigh the costs? I understand the Non-Resident Barkurians (NRB) enjoy these books quite happily. Most of them received them free of cost, thus we get used to the gift, and we expect it all the time, as though, it’s our birth-right to get! I was feeling guilty to see the cost of the stamps alone. Rs. 25 is lot of money, and adds up depending upon the size of the mailing list, all over the world! How many NRBs have contributed to this  Pedruchi Chavi, financially? We reciprocate greeting cards, but what did most of us reciprocate to this booklet? If NRBs enjoy these books, then, the NRBs have a responsibility to shoulder the expenses at least, if not by voluntary time, or articles, or labour. Just a thought: Can NRBs in Bombay sponsor one issue per year?

And Similarly, Middle East, North America, or Bangalore? If four VOLUNTARY sponsors are found, may be four issues might fly. But, who will want to commit? Or who wants to involve? I can ask the Five NRBs in USA who contributed financially for the last Christmas issue, whether they can sponsor annually in the future. I can do this much, under the circumstances! To get breast fed, the babies have to cry!

James Fernandes, USA, 15/07/2005

It was an elaborate report on Daiji Dubai, about CYM BARKUR, mostly last week or so, and local weekly Raknno too. Great work, laudable achievement. Mr. fernandes, now you get twice mail from Barkur via Chavi!

Philiph Richard. 12/05/2005

I was wondering, how Barkurian's bring out 4 issues of parish bulletin, every year and spoken to my friends why we too plan accordingly. Lucky people to have Eric Soans, Kishoo barkur and others... to shoulder the responsibility. Money matters most..., but you are focusing a distinct community..... at a time, is well received by Barkurian's. I find no reason to make it 2 times, if outside living Barkur, wish to have it more regularly. By the way, I just come to know ICYM of Barkur is elder to Kallianpur. Of course all such activities in our parish were conducted well by our Famous YOUTH CENTRE. Still, we too are happy to find your name at the top, congratulations!

GS Lewis, Kallianpur.12/05/2005

Can someone reveal the achievement of Barkur ICYM, the subject of praise in this site? I did not get Pedruchi Chavi, nor I read on Barkur.com.

James Fernandes, 11/07/2005

I am totally disappointed by the message of Vicar stating that the Pedruchi Chaavi will be published only two times in a year. Plesae note, the booklet is having value not among the Barkurians in Barkur but Barkurians outside Barkur, to be in touch and know their people and parish regularly.

Philiph Richard, 11/07/2005

Congratulations to ICYM Barkur on your great achievement. Indeed I'm Very proud of you! With love and best wishes

Fr.Henry D'Souza, CBCI, New Delhi, 10/07/2005

We the President, Office bearers, and the Members of ICYM Barkur Ex –Members Association, congratulate the whole ICYM Team of Barkur, its President and Members including the Directors, Animators, and of course the Parish people of St. Peter’s Church Barkur, on being the Unit chosen and felicitated as one of the ‘Best ICYM Group’ of the Mangalore Diocese.

You deserve to be honored more so, as your unit always found a place among top ten, out of some 150 ICYM Units spread over the Districts of D.K, Udupi and Kasargod, since the very inception of the much acclaimed ICYM Cup some 10 years back.

It is also a point of pride, since this is the only unit, in the Northern part of the Diocese and eldest in the Kallianpur Varado, to be in the limelight consistently.

To recall our memories, over the last few years, the past Presidents like, Rohan D’Souza, Divya Furtado, Alwyn D’Almeida, Sabitha Mascarenhus and the incumbent Rohan D’Souza and their teammates led the Association to the height of success. We the ex. Members firmly trust in the value of life not depending on the present position you occupy but the way you occupied that position – in short, your positive response to the need of the hour, in ever changing circumstances at Barkur and the surroundings.

Let this recognition of your manifold activities and services boost your energies further to serve the society and parish and at the same time bring to light best in you, to be mould as ideal citizen’s of tomorrow’s Barkur. Keep it up!

On behalf of ICYM Barker Ex-Member’s Association,

P. Archibald Furtado, Muscat. 09/07/2005